LONG RANT SORRY
I fucking hate Jack Noir so much. I hate that he basically got off scot free for literal genocide. I hate that he killed Dave’s Bro, Rose’s Mom, and John’s Dad and never once went up against all three of them because they all of a sudden decided to go up against Lord English, a guy who did NOTHING to them, and mostly fucked off killing ghosts in the dreambubbles.
I HATE how he was reduced to the status of a joke and had all intimidating traits about him brushed aside as soon as he started running away from PM. I HATE how this also culminated in all his atrocities being swept under the rug as well, so people just sort of casually forgot that this guy MURDERED EVERYBODY IN PROSPIT AND DERSE AND DESTROYED THEIR KINGDOM.
I ***HATE*** how in the ending, after killing countless swathes of people, ruining lives, destroying universes, and the like, all that happens to Jack is his arm getting cut off. I HATE how PM does nothing to him after finally depowering him, after seeing all her Exile friends getting brutally murdered save for WV WHO WOULD’VE DIED AS WELL IF NOT FOR HER USING THE VERY SAME FUCKING RING, just walks up to Jack, takes his ring and fucks off to the Forge.
I ***FUCKING HATE*** how Spades Slick is the one who gets his head chopped off in the ending. Despite being the ONLY version of Jack who’s done ANYTHING HEROIC IN THE ENTIRE FUCKING STORY, he is treated as just another enemy for Dave, Dirk, and Terezi to effortlessly mow down, because EVERYBODY KNOWS GOOD GUYS TAKE VENGEANCE UPON THOSE WHO ATTACK THEM, RIGHT?! EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT!! The worst part about Slick dying? Oh I don’t know.
Maybe the fact that Ms. Paint, his LOVER left and went to the wounded Jack, and patched up his arm. The fact that Ms. Paint confused Jack for Slick is easily forgiven here, but Jack’s face in that next panel just says it all. Jack fucking STEALS Slick’s girlfriend. And lives happily ever after. The genocidal maniac, LIVES HAPPILY EVER AFTER.
I don’t know why any of the Beta Kids won’t kill him now. He doesn’t have the ring now, sure. He isn’t a threat to them in their new universe. But why on earth would you let your family member’s killer walk free? Is it because if you kill him while he’s already struck down, you’ll be just like him? That’s bullshit. That’s absolutely fucking bullshit to the highest fucking degree. Do they not KNOW he is still alive? Maybe one of them could go, “Hey guys, remember that guy who teleported around and killed our family members and also killed us? Yeah, I wonder where he is now.”
But no. Jack, for all of his wrongdoings, never gets punished for anything. There are even people in the fandom who love him. People who say “he was being silly” when committing literal genocide, and praising him for killing Dave’s Bro. Being an omnicidal maniac, hellbent on destroying everything and everyone in your path, gets you a girlfriend and a chopped arm. That chopped arm isn’t even an inconvenience to him. Worst thing that’ll happen because of it, he won’t be able to stroke his dick. But that’s okay, he has Ms. Paint to do it for him. He has her to put her fucking tits around his dick and cum all over her face, because he was spared.
But, being a guy who teaches his baby how to swordfight and flashstep along with his ABCs, THAT’S wrong. That’s the worst crime you could ever commit, up there with shipping JohnRose or not liking Davekat. THAT’ll get you impaled to the floor as the fandom cheers your death. THAT is what modern Homestuck fans are actively rooting against.
ALL because Hussie doesn’t know how to write properly. I will NEVER enjoy the Homestuck ending, not only because it was rushed, and left more plotholes than a wheel of Swiss cheese, but because it has the GALL to actually call itself an ending, when its arguably main villain gets away with everything.
I just wanted John or Rose or Dave or Jade or ALL FOUR OF THEM TO FUCKING BEAT JACK NOIR TO DEATH, UNTIL HE IS NOTHING MORE THAN RED MUSH ON THE FLOOR. WAS THAT TOO HARD TO WRITE?! AT NO POINT IN THE COMIC DID ALL FOUR OF THEM UNITE TO KILL JACK, OR DO ANYTHING TO HIM. DESPITE CALLING THEM FRIENDS THEY NEVER DID ANYTHING TOGETHER. JUST THIS ONCE YOU COULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING AND GIVEN THEM SOMETHING TO FIGHT FOR!!!
But no. That’s too much to ask.
Go to fucking hell, Hussie.
Doesn’t help that people think Jack Noir and Spade Slick are one in the same, despite it is clearly shown that SS from the Problem Sleuth universe is different from Jack Noir that served under Derse. I thought it would be obvious when we see ANOTHER JACK during the Alpha session. It’s the same confusion like people thinking John hugging Dad Crocker is okay because he is another version of Dad Egbert that didn’t die, but it’s not really the same guy, even from an alternate timeline.
I never got why PM nor any of the Beta Kids would go kill Jack either after all was said and done with the game. Is it in fear of making Miss Paint upset despite she meets a different guy that HAPPENS to look like Spade Slick? I doubt the plothole will be explained in Homestuck^2. No way that whoever is left on WhatPumpkin is smart enough to address that.
I would think even KARKAT would want to confront Jack since he was the one that was close to him and met him at the start of Sgrub. Does Karkat felt betrayed by Jack after he showed off his mutant blood? Is he ever angry that he was the one who caused the trolls’ dream selves to die, making it impossible for him to get his other friends back? If Karkat knew Jack was alive, how would he react? Would he kill him? Make sure he doesn’t stab anyone else? None of that gets brought up either and it sucks remembering as well that it was also TEREZI who tried to warn Karkat that Jack Noir was not to be trusted, but he went through anyway. Does Karkat felt bad for not trusting his crush/his own kind all because of his insecurities?
Everything that you said hits the mark about Jack Noir and Andrew Hussie’s shitty writing.














